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Clener74 at 15:25, 11 November 2020

2020-11-11T15:25:40Z

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	Taken to the example mentioned in the manual,		Taken to the example mentioned in the manual,
	* "When the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan ~~Macneil~~ appears";		* "When the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan MacNeil appears";
	* "When the button is clicked, a picture of Regan ~~Macneil~~ is shown"		* "When the button is clicked, a picture of Regan MacNeil is shown"

	Hope I got my point across. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)		Hope I got my point across. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Clener74 at 15:23, 11 November 2020

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	* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''		* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''

	However, the passive example is the same sentence with its two parts switched around, and the verbal tense changing to past halfway through. While I can see how it could look like a passive sentence, it looks pretty confusing.		However, the passive example is the same sentence, but with its two parts switched around, and the verbal tense changing to past halfway through. While I can see how it could look like a passive sentence, it looks pretty confusing.

	Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).		Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).

Clener74 at 15:21, 11 November 2020

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	Taken to the example mentioned in the manual,		Taken to the example mentioned in the manual,
	"When the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan Macneil appears";		* "When the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan Macneil appears";
	"When the button is clicked, a picture of Regan Macneil is shown"		* "When the button is clicked, a picture of Regan Macneil is shown"

	Hope I got my point across. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)		Hope I got my point across. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Clener74 at 15:21, 11 November 2020

2020-11-11T15:21:35Z

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	Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).		Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).

	So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)		So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive.

			Taken to the example mentioned in the manual,
			"When the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan Macneil appears";
			"When the button is clicked, a picture of Regan Macneil is shown"

			Hope I got my point across. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Clener74 at 15:19, 11 November 2020

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	* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''		* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''

	However, the passive example is the same sentence, ~~with~~ the verbal tense ~~changed~~ to past, halfway through. While I can see how it could look like a passive sentence, it looks pretty confusing.		However, the passive example is the same sentence with its two parts switched around, and the verbal tense changing to past halfway through. While I can see how it could look like a passive sentence, it looks pretty confusing.

	Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).		Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).

	So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)		So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Clener74 at 15:18, 11 November 2020

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	* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''		* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''

	However, ~~that's~~ the same sentence, ~~just switched around~~. Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).		However, the passive example is the same sentence, with the verbal tense changed to past, halfway through. While I can see how it could look like a passive sentence, it looks pretty confusing.

			Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).

	So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)		So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74\|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74\|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Clener74: /* Active and passive voice. */ new section

2020-11-11T15:15:58Z

Active and passive voice.: new section

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== Active and passive voice. ==

Something feels out of place with the section of the manual that covers this. As it stands, it proposes these two sentences as respective examples of an "active" voice and a "passive" voice:

* ''Active Voice: "when the player clicks the button, a picture of Regan MacNeil appears"''
* ''Passive Voice: "a picture of Regan MacNeil appears when the button was clicked by the player"''

However, that's the same sentence, just switched around. Unless I'm missing something, the difference between active and passive is in the structure, not in the order the info gets presented. If I get this right, in active, a given subject performs the action (denoted by the verb) on an object, such as "I write a sentence on the page". On the other hand, in passive, the object itself becomes the subject, and the performer of the action becomes completely optional to include, as in the case of "A sentence is written on the page" (where you can optionally say "by me" at the end).

So it'd be "I write a sentence on the page" in active, and "a sentence is written on the page (by me)" in passive. --[[User:Clener74|Clener74]] ([[User talk:Clener74|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2020 (UTC)